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1.6 Beta 2

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:26 pm
by george moromisato
Beta 2 is now out with some good bug fixes. Thanks to all who reported bugs (and who put up with the seededRandom problems). Beta 2 should download automatically if you have Beta 1, but if not, you can get it at the usual place: http://kronosaur.com/downloads/TranscendenceNext.zip

The full list of bug fixes is here: https://ministry.kronosaur.com/program. ... osed&tag=3

There's one major addition to the API: Thanks to the work of Brian Merchant (bzm3r on the forums) TLisp now supports floating point. There is a new set of operators, which return floating point results:

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(+ 2.5 1.0) -> 3.5
(- 2.5 1.0) -> 1.5
(* 0.5 10) -> 5.0
(/ 5 2) -> 2.5
The old operators (divide, in particular) act in a backwards-compatible manner. E.g., (divide 5 2) -> 2

We haven't yet converted all the functions to use floats. In particular, the vector functions don't yet handle floats, but that's something we're working on.

Re: 1.6 Beta 2

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:30 pm
by JohnBWatson
Glad to help. I'll get to testing it out, and tell you about anything I see.

Re: 1.6 Beta 2

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 1:56 am
by Aury
The new rendering engine now that it supports transparency correctly is doing a great job! Even the TSB wrecks have clean edges!

Re: 1.6 Beta 2

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 2:45 am
by JohnBWatson
I have played through up to completion of the arena, and this is downright epic. The balance, AI new graphics, and everything else are vast improvements, and I, at several points, found myself fighting the urge to break into applause.

I have only been able to find a single small glitch thus far, which is impressive given my strategy consists of doing exactly the opposite of what I'm supposed to be doing at any given moment. That glitch is now on ministry.

Finally, I would agree with the earlier poster who mentioned adding visual depth. Re-implementing parallax stars in the background would go far.

Re: 1.6 Beta 2

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 2:51 am
by george moromisato
JohnBWatson wrote:I have played through up to completion of the arena, and this is downright epic. The balance, AI new graphics, and everything else are vast improvements, and I, at several points, found myself fighting the urge to break into applause.

I have only been able to find a single small glitch thus far, which is impressive given my strategy consists of doing exactly the opposite of what I'm supposed to be doing at any given moment. That glitch is now on ministry.

Finally, I would agree with the earlier poster who mentioned adding visual depth. Re-implementing parallax stars in the background would go far.
I'm all for more parallax, so I like the idea. I was also thinking of adding a second layer of asteroids in a background parallax layer. Plus it would also be cool to add parallax layers above the main zone (either nebulae or asteroids or debris).

Re: 1.6 Beta 2

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 5:13 am
by Song
We....um....have a slight bug in how fragments get saved/loaded into the game.



It's quite impressive.

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Edit: Oh wow. It stacks.....

Also for anyone thinking of exploiting this....it really isn't worth it. I tried, but the damage is not as good as you'd think. Might be that damage isn't leaked onto the new fragments, might just be the spread. But it's almost useless against stuff like the ICS, and using it on swarms has a high risk of crashing. And the stack trick? It WILL crash your system and destroy the savegame.

Re: 1.6 Beta 2

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 2:09 pm
by Watch TV, Do Nothing
Shrike wrote: Image
Benedict: "It's shrinking! It's shrinking!"
Domina: "ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS EXCEPT EUROPA"

Re: 1.6 Beta 2

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 6:56 pm
by Atarlost
I'm still seeing the targetless missions from beta 1 in beta 2.

Re: 1.6 Beta 2

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 7:16 pm
by Aury
I managed to get 6 stacks of the bug. 7th stack caused the game to just give up and its cpu use dropped to 0% and it just sat there for 20 mins till i killed it.

Re: 1.6 Beta 2

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 8:28 pm
by george moromisato
Atarlost wrote:I'm still seeing the targetless missions from beta 1 in beta 2.
Saved games from beta 1 will still have the bug (because the mission was generated incorrectly). But if a new game in Beta 2 is having the problem, let me know.

Re: 1.6 Beta 2

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:16 pm
by JohnBWatson
george moromisato wrote:
Atarlost wrote:I'm still seeing the targetless missions from beta 1 in beta 2.
Saved games from beta 1 will still have the bug (because the mission was generated incorrectly). But if a new game in Beta 2 is having the problem, let me know.
I believe the cause was a savegame, as I haven't been getting the bugs anymore.

However, this occurred. Cause unknown, but Anton Nasser gated a few seconds before offscreen, and I was looking at the map at the time if that helps.

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04/04/2015 16:51:02	Start logging session
04/04/2015 16:51:05	Graphics quality maximum: 93 ms; 2 cores.
04/04/2015 16:51:06	Transcendence 1.6 Beta 2
04/04/2015 16:51:12	Loaded extension: Collection\CorporateCommand.tdb
04/04/2015 16:51:14	Loaded library: Collection\CorporateHierarchyVol01.tdb
04/04/2015 16:51:15	backColor not supported: Resources\Worlds1.jpg.
04/04/2015 16:51:15	Loaded library: Collection\LRL15.tdb
04/04/2015 16:51:15	Loaded extension: Collection\OPS_ExtOsaka.tdb
04/04/2015 16:51:15	Loaded library: Collection\OPS_LibResOsaka.tdb
04/04/2015 16:51:15	Loaded extension: Collection\StarsOfThePilgrimSoundtrack.tdb
04/04/2015 16:51:16	Loading user collection.
04/04/2015 16:51:17	Loading news.
04/04/2015 16:51:17	All resources downloaded.
04/04/2015 16:51:21	Loaded game file version: 106ca00
04/04/2015 17:13:47	Unable to continue due to program error.

program state: OnAnimate
program state: painting map
game state: in game

Re: 1.6 Beta 2

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:35 pm
by Deltax
I started up a new game today with eternity port and everything was running smoothly until the game crashed while I was heading to intercept the drake from the North Atlantic Union mission.

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04/04/2015 16:55:51	Start logging session
04/04/2015 16:55:52	Transcendence 1.6 Beta 2
04/04/2015 16:55:55	Loaded extension: Collection\CorporateCommand.tdb
04/04/2015 16:55:56	Loaded library: Collection\CorporateHierarchyVol01.tdb
04/04/2015 16:55:56	Loaded adventure desc: Collection\EternityPort.tdb
04/04/2015 16:55:56	backColor not supported: Resources\Worlds1.jpg.
04/04/2015 16:55:56	Loaded library: Collection\LRL15.tdb
04/04/2015 16:55:57	Loaded library: Collection\NearStarsVol01.tdb
04/04/2015 16:55:57	Loaded extension: Collection\OPS_ExtOsaka.tdb
04/04/2015 16:55:58	Loaded library: Collection\OPS_LibResOsaka.tdb
04/04/2015 16:55:58	Loaded extension: Collection\StarsOfThePilgrimSoundtrack.tdb
04/04/2015 16:55:59	Loading user collection.
04/04/2015 16:56:00	Loading news.
04/04/2015 16:56:00	All resources downloaded.
04/04/2015 16:56:04	Loaded adventure: Collection\EternityPort.tdb
04/04/2015 16:56:05	Loaded game file version: 106ca00
04/04/2015 17:23:15	Unable to continue due to program error.

program state: OnAnimate
program state: painting map
game state: in game

Re: 1.6 Beta 2

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 12:38 am
by Song
I have also had this bug. I'd just started the "intercept outlaw ship" mission, and the game crashed when I tried to open the map.

Re: 1.6 Beta 2

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 2:52 am
by josh19967
04/04/2015 10:33:03 Start logging session
04/04/2015 10:33:03 Transcendence 1.6 Beta 2
04/04/2015 10:33:03 Graphics quality maximum: 78 ms; 4 cores.
04/04/2015 10:33:04 Loaded extension: Collection\CorporateCommand.tdb
04/04/2015 10:33:04 Loaded library: Collection\CorporateHierarchyVol01.tdb
04/04/2015 10:33:04 Loaded adventure desc: Collection\EternityPort.tdb
04/04/2015 10:33:04 backColor not supported: Resources\Worlds1.jpg.
04/04/2015 10:33:04 Loaded library: Collection\LRL15.tdb
04/04/2015 10:33:05 Loaded library: Collection\NearStarsVol01.tdb
04/04/2015 10:33:05 Loaded extension: Collection\OPS_ExtOsaka.tdb
04/04/2015 10:33:05 Loaded library: Collection\OPS_LibResOsaka.tdb
04/04/2015 10:33:05 Loaded extension: Collection\StarsOfThePilgrimSoundtrack.tdb
04/04/2015 10:33:06 Loading user collection.
04/04/2015 10:33:06 Loading news.
04/04/2015 10:33:06 All resources downloaded.
04/04/2015 10:33:08 Loaded game file version: 106ca00
04/04/2015 10:35:48 Unable to continue due to program error.

program state: OnAnimate
program state: painting map
game state: in game


Please contact [email protected] with a copy of Debug.log and your save file. We are sorry for the inconvenience.
I've had that issue as well, and it DOES seem to be connected to the map view. I've also had the game crash in Tau Ceti by opening the map after using a system map ROM.

Re: 1.6 Beta 2

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:55 am
by sun1404
If possible, I would suggest the game make an alternate save when it crash, so that players do not lose progress. But don't overwrite the original save, since the new save might crash at loading. I think it should be possible, since when the game crash, the process itself doesn't terminate, but the game changes into the crash screen.