Transcendence 1.7 Released!

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Re: Transcendence 1.7 Released!

Post by Derakon » Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:34 am

Two weapons generally means either a mainstay weapon and a launcher, or a base cracker and a flyswatter. Both setups can work fine. If the E1500 could equip a third weapon then it'd functionally have as much weapon flexibility as the war-purposed ships, as I'd wager most players don't want to use more than three weapons. Learn to cope. :P

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Re: Transcendence 1.7 Released!

Post by Ferdinand » Fri Mar 10, 2017 7:23 am

Generally the games I play with the EI500 are by far the easiest to finish. Once you have it equipped with good armor, decent shield, a launcher and a good omni weapon (omni thermo lasts easily to the end) it can function as a missile boat with lots of cargo capacity. This will guarantee a big cashflow.
From then on, expand on that, add point defense, even heavier armor, quantum CPU and soon you don't need a drive upgrade. Get some Domina powers and you are literally invincible in the slow and cumbersome EI500 missile tank :wink:
Adding more slots for weapons would feel extremely overpowered to me for the EI500

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Re: Transcendence 1.7 Released!

Post by PM » Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:21 pm

On EI500, I use Omni or tracking (because it turns a bit slow). Since most of them lack WMD (and the few that do use ammo), the other must have it. This also means if I want to mine, I need to get rid of one of them for mining laser. It also means equipping powerful two-slot weapons like CLAW or Ares plasma archcannon really hurts. Two-weapon limit is a big deal for EI500. This is why I say it is its greatest weakness, and probably the only reason I do not play it more than Wolfen (whose two non-weapon device limit is nearly as aggravating; not sure which I dislike more, less weapons or non-devices). Slow turning is a bit annoying, but that plagues most ships, and Omni or tracking weapon helps deal with that. Slow top speed is completely negated by a drive upgrade.

In early game, I tend to leave weapons I do not need on gunships installed because money is tight and I cannot afford to waste it just to remove clutter from my ship. EI500 cannot do that. Dock services are relatively expensive in early game.
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Re: Transcendence 1.7 Released!

Post by Oddball » Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:19 pm

The E1500 has been severely penalized this game revision. No Drives in early game. Monopole shield appears to have been weakened. The E1500 this version uses more fuel, and has been slowed down. Very slow compared to all enemy ships except for the centari.
lack of drives, There are no drives available --this is probably the 90th game I have started and only in 1 start was a drive found between eridani and St katherines. 5 times I have been destroyed by sapien revenant ships that have swarmed and destroyed me. At least a dozen trying to destroy a urak outpost with the omnidirectional laser and a monopole shield. It takes 2 to 5 min to destroy a station with the omnidirectional laser. Really! The E1500 is so slow the only balance is the omni direction weapons which aren't available.
The osarka (nice design by the way) is much much faster an extra weapon slot and almost as much cargo capacity. Osarka has Less options but hey with no options offered what difference does that make.
1.6.4 was hard for the E1500 but with much care I could get to point juno and beyond before being destroyed. Now most games I am hunted down and killed before ever getting to st katherines. Really Very Very Very Unbalanced for the E1500

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Re: Transcendence 1.7 Released!

Post by Ferdinand » Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:18 pm

First thing I always go for with the EI500 is a missile launcher. I don't take on enemies I cannot handle with the omni laser. It is tough, but the NAMI launcher usually is available in Eridani. From then on the missiles are primary weapons until the omni laser can be ditched for something better (like the smartcannon from Benedict) Most early systems have enemies that take only a one or a few missile hits to be destroyed, so no problem there. After leaving Eridani in the EI500 I usually have a smartcannon and missiles, and with some luck better shields and or armor.
You have to take it slow and steady though, If you are used to flying Wolfen or Sapphire, you'll be toasted in the EI500.

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Re: Transcendence 1.7 Released!

Post by Bruno » Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:29 pm

With EI500 you just have to take it slow and steady in the beginning, because you cant dodge many shots. This ship get a lot of good options as the game proceeds.

As soon as replace your weapons with better ones and install lots of nice auxilliary devices then you are in business.

I have played a couple of times lately and always found a tritium drive rather quickly, around Rigel Aurelius or so. This is just a matter of luck.

(If you are lucky and find a tinker station and can buy an x-ray laser, do build an omni-x-ray laser. This baby, optimized with a laser collimator installed, suits the EI500 perfectly and will shred anything well into the ungoverned territories. Add a 2nd weapon/launcher of choice with good WMD to take out bases.)

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Re: Transcendence 1.7 Released!

Post by Oddball » Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:11 am

Bruno I am terribly unlucky as I have never seen an x-ray laser in 1.7 release. Do they exist in an unmodified game? as to laser collimaters, they are rare maybe only 5% of the games I have started have them. Oh and if you don't have a targeting computer you most likely will not be able to destroy AV.

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Re: Transcendence 1.7 Released!

Post by Ferdinand » Sun Mar 12, 2017 1:39 pm

They still exist in 1.7. But it is a rare find.
Ususally by the time I can get one, I don't need it really because of the large accumulating amounts of Stiletto's that can take me well past St. Kats. I like to combine them with a spread weapon, like the Morningstar or later the Ion Flame Cannon in combination with Lucifers. They do great on the EI500, because they destroy incoming missiles and are powerful enough to take care of gunships that come in close.
Combine that with ICX or Longreach and you have a formidable array of diverse weapons at your disposal with only two slots for weapons available.

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Re: Transcendence 1.7 Released!

Post by Oddball » Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:41 pm

Thanks Ferdinand, got an easy game and reached sanctuary, 3 corp trading posts. Only xray was dual. :(

When playing a vanilla game -I still say E1500 has been penalized this version compared to the other ships. I do not understand the logic behind turning a fun game into a grindfest. why the designers keep removing options for the E1500 IMPO does not improve the game only detracts from it.

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Re: Transcendence 1.7 Released!

Post by JohnBWatson » Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:52 pm

The X - Ray only exists as a dual weapon. That's why George originally just called it the X - Ray laser. You can make your omni weapon just fine with it and an omni laser.

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Re: Transcendence 1.7 Released!

Post by shanejfilomena » Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:13 pm

In my view, the X-Ray is a weapon built for a Wolfen, or at least I tend to find it most while using that ship.

I can not say I ever put it on any other ship, I think that while it is a powerful weapon in the Player's grip, it only looks right on the Wolfen.

That being said - it is hard to come by.
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Re: Transcendence 1.7 Released!

Post by Oddball » Wed Apr 12, 2017 2:59 pm

This started today. When I quit and save status permadeath. When I log back in I wake up in someone else's body. I didn't die, I just quit and saved. Any Ideas?

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Re: Transcendence 1.7 Released!

Post by Ferdinand » Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:04 am

Oddball wrote:
Wed Apr 12, 2017 2:59 pm
This started today. When I quit and save status permadeath. When I log back in I wake up in someone else's body. I didn't die, I just quit and saved. Any Ideas?
Could be that the game crashed on exit due to some reason. If this happens, the game also resurrects you when you log back in. Should be in your log if it happened.

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Re: Transcendence 1.7 Released!

Post by Yugi » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:48 am

Neat, just in time for me to get back into it :)

Things that are new to me since I haven't played seriously in like, five years:
  • New thruster graphics
  • Tabbed inventory

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