Is this a bug, or an easter egg?

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Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:24 pm

Seems you can still order volumes 1-3 of Rowena's Weapons and Armor from a Corporate Trading Post. Later versions cannot be ordered because their level is too high.

Since they're not functional and don't have the "cannotOrder" tag, I'm kind of leaning toward this being an easter egg.
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Sat Jan 23, 2016 3:41 am

It's a bug. The ROMs were removed from the game, but apparently that bit was forgotten. So say hello to a relic from 0.99c


(Personally, I'd love to see Rowena's ROMs make a return....as a more detailed guide to each weapon, built in a custom dockscreen. But that'd be a bit of work to make)
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Sat Jan 23, 2016 4:23 am

 I think the reason they were left in but made mostly unobtainable through legitimate means is most likely because removing the items altogether would break existing savegames when someone upgraded from the version with the ROMs to the version without them.
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Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:42 am

It is a shame those were removed, I liked them and the game mechanic a lot.

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Sat Jan 23, 2016 12:44 pm

I think those may have been before my time. How did they work?

Were they required to identify/view the stats of weapons?

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Sat Jan 23, 2016 5:08 pm

I started playing sometime before they were phased out.

If I recall correctly, they identity all items & devices, (including weapons), upto a certain level. I think I remember I used to hold onto my roms before I got a Rowena's, so I wouldn't go blind or deinstall my autopilot.

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Yep!

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		(block Nil
				(objSendMessage gSource Nil "\"Rowena's Weapons and Armor (Volume I)\" installed")
				(itmEnumTypes "adsw" itemType
					(if (and (geq (itmGetLevel itemType) 1) (leq (itmGetLevel itemType) 5))
						(itmSetReference itemType)
						)
					)

				; Identify the item
				(itmSetKnown gItem)

				; Remove ROM
				(objRemoveItem gSource gItem 1)
				)
So they identify all items between levels 1&5, 6&10, 11&15, 16&20, depending on level of Ro's rom, identify themselves, then remove themselves.

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Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:17 pm

There used to be a ROM that uninstalled autopilot?

That's very roguelikeish.

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Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:50 pm

I mean, this is trying to remember years and years ago, so I might be misremembering.

Either I was more paranoid back then, or there was something worse among the roms than there is now. It would have be an item that currently does something different, since old items are grandfathered in like Ro's weapons & Armour.

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Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:36 pm

regurgi wrote: So they identify all items between levels 1&5, 6&10, 11&15, 16&20, depending on level of Ro's rom, identify themselves, then remove themselves.
It identifies the ROM itself, not any other items.

What the Rowena ROMs used to do is show the item reference - weapon damage, armour resistance, etc. because those attributes originally weren't shown.
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