Succession #2- NonPermadeath (AKA with Death >.>)

[Neuromancer]

I can't get past the first couple systems without some kind of crash. The annoying part is it's something different every time. The latest was just a crash on animating the stargate transition. I'm not sure what's up, maybe the mods are just stressing the engine too much and it's running out of memory? It's certainly not stressing my system at all, but something strange is going on.

[RPC]

Ok, let me do a ~3 hr run and I'll see what happens.
If I do crash, maybe downgrade to 1.08?
I've heard that the 1.08c-d had some savegame issues, so... :/

[RPC]

Ok, getting UNID errors.
Did you fix them Neuromancer?

[Neuromancer]

I haven't had any UNID errors with the extension pack and fixed mining mod you have listed in the OP yet. Just the other weird crashes I mentioned. I'm using 1.08d, so if you're using the same build that's a bit weird.

[RPC]

Yeah, I upgraded to 1.08f. There's lots of weird graphics glitches in that version.
Anyways, got an error, and I have no idea if it's a mod or a glitch:
Dbglog isn't very helpful either :/

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program state: OnAnimate
program state: miscellaneous animation
game state: docked


Please contact [email protected] with a copy of Debug.log and your save file. We are sorry for the inconvenience.

Misc animation? o.O
Either way, here's the save.
Also updated the Extensions to work with 1.08f.

[RPC]

Hi, TVR did a turn while on IRC, told me to upload, so here.
I'm taking a turn after him right now though, so yeah >.>

[RPC]

Hi, posting link for anybody who wants a turn, will do writeup after dinner.
This is the save:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23352181/Succe ... BRPC%5D.7z
Note: Charon is next system, Korolov station in system hates me, and good luck to the next person....

So I came back to where TVR left off, in Rigel. I spent ~20-30 minutes going back to pick up my EI200, named TARDIS, and proceeded to mine a bit. That was when I found this:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23352181/respawn%20colony.jpg
and I found this inside:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23352181/respawn%20colony2.jpg
Btw, I got 7 Korolov shipping containers, which will be relevant later in the story.
So after mining for a bit I managed to get to Rigel. Not much, except I see this:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23352181/makayev.png
o.O WE5? Looks really good, would like PSD to have it as a ship...
I found this in Rigel, and it's probably a howitzer judging by the image.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23352181/great%20find.png
So I found a station willing to buy the Korolov containers, and immediately hightailed back to Rigel. I bought it, but then this happened:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23352181/find% ... 000....png
so yeah :/ There goes 90,000 cr
I took another look at the Vulcan cannon, since it was at 30 shots/sec.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23352181/30%20 ... %20o.O.png
I consulted SW and Androgeos and decided against it, since apparently I'm going to chew through the ammo like a starving man.
Also, fusion triggers look like triggers. I have no idea what mod does this, but it sure looks good!
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23352181/fusio ... %20o.O.png
And here comes the crux of my turn:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23352181/holy%20crap.png
If any of you have played Dynamic Systems, you should know this: any mistake has serious consequences.
I had an IRC conversation about it, here to read (since it would explain more than what I can do here)

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<RPC> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23352181/holy%20crap.png
<RPC> holy
<RPC> suggestions guys
<RPC> :/
<Androgeos> "the The TARDIS"?
<RPC> Androgeos: syntax is very hard to code : P
<RPC> that's not the point though
<TVR> Piracy isn't a serious crime
<Cirevam> Turn on your timey wimey powers
<RPC> in ~30 secs I have to save my freighter
<RPC> or finish my mission :/
<RPC> damn, I wish I could really pause time and still have it count as legit : P
<RPC> okay, I'm guessing nobody here played Dynamic Systems?
<RPC> bleh : P
<Androgeos> If you had a Gem of Despair...
<TVR> OK, can you move the freighter above the Korolov station?
<Androgeos> ...or was it Contrition...?
<TVR> Both will work
<Avan> Gem of fluffs
<RPC> TVR: I'm doing a freighter mission though :/
<RPC> ok, screw it, screw Korolov
<TVR> Any autons?
<RPC> screw you
* RPC saves freighter
<RPC> >:D
* Avan proceeds to pass out from being too fluffy <.>
* IronParrot cooks up some fluff pasta
* RPC kicks lame paper tissue korolov freighters
* StarWeaver puts hte avan in a bubble
<RPC> TVR: no, just the ship
<Androgeos> Ohh yeah, contrition stops time, despair sends you to Elysium.
* RPC kicks Korolov
<TVR> Shields?
<RPC> nephren on the TARDIS
<Androgeos> RPC: Mega missile? : P
<RPC> lol Androgeos 
<Avan> <.> I really should make dinner...
<RPC> ok, hope I can make it in time....
<TVR> Ah, Nephren will easily hold out against lasers
<RPC> wish me luck
<RPC> TVR: in dynamic systems korolov sends /at least/ a squad of wolfens to avenge their freighters :/
<RPC> so yeah
<RPC> BIG trouble
<Androgeos> 400 antimatter. I'd like to see if any Korolov Station can take one to the docking bay (they can't).
<RPC> I could shoot them down....
<TVR> They'll attack you?
<RPC> yeah
<RPC> attacking the tardis specifically
<RPC> I could always buy another ship though...
<RPC> but it's the TARDIS!
<TVR> Can you instruct the tardis to break and attack?
<RPC> no
<RPC> they're Korolov
<RPC> still friendly :/
<RPC> ggrrrrrr
* RPC pokes StarWeaver 
<StarWeaver> ???
<Androgeos> I thought you can attack friendly targets...
<RPC> StarWeaver: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23352181/holy%20crap.png
<TVR> You should probably get The Tardis to form up
<RPC> Androgeos: yeah, but autons don't
<StarWeaver> I saw :[
<Androgeos> D:
<RPC> because Korolov revenge is friendly :/
<RPC> bleh
<TVR> Fleet-vessels will attack friendlies
<RPC> usually I do something stupid and die
<RPC> and then 2 days later I think of a way to live :/
<RPC> so yeah
<RPC> ideas people!
<TVR> Remember to hit the pause button
<RPC> ok, so forget freighter mission
<Cirevam> I just discovered that the medium IAV is a fantastic ship because of how easy it is to put on landing gear and make a loading bay
<RPC> TVR: esc +2 
<Cirevam> http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/1474/mediumiavlanding.png
<RPC> Cirevam: :D
<RPC> sweet
<RPC> get TARDIS to follow up, deal with wolfens?
<TVR> Yes
<RPC> I'm sure it got banged up by now though :/
<TVR> It'll halve the travel time
<RPC> yeah
<RPC> thinking
<TVR> Might want to switch to lasers instead of turbo claw
<RPC> I also have some starburst autons
<RPC> or whatever those are
<RPC> might block some shots
<RPC> hmm
<Cirevam> They come in a box
<Androgeos> Yeah. A more accurate weapon is good.
<TVR> I think those are kamikaze autons
<RPC> I could park the TARDIS on the Korolov station
<RPC> ~mod star
<Katami> RPC: Advanced Start, Aristar Defense Turret, Aristar Industries' Gradient Freighter, Battlestar Galactica, Cylon Base Star, F104 StarFighter, HK2250 - Stars of Call - 006 - Refined, Katana Star repeater, On Debug Startup, Popstar Hatsumi [WIP], Portable Stargates, Star Chart, Star Network Prototype, Starburn Autons, Stargate - The will of the Gods v1.0 Beta, Stargate Dock n Go, Starhound Viper Interceptor, (1 more message)
<RPC> starburn
<RPC> ~mod starburn autons
<Katami> RPC: Starburn Autons
<Katami> RPC: http://xelerus.de/index.php?s=mod&id=866
<RPC> so yeah
<Cirevam> It's like opening up a jar of fireflies and having them crash into the school bully
<RPC> lol Cimanyd 
<RPC> I mean Cirevam 
<RPC> bleh : P
<RPC> should I just park the TARDIS on the korolov?
<TVR> If you can
<RPC> seems safer for some reason o.O
<Cirevam> Yeah, try it
<RPC> ok
<TVR> It's tricky to remotely control drones
<RPC> yeah
<RPC> but PSD remember?
<RPC> shipchange >:D
<TVR> You can ship change without docking?
<RPC> you can dock then ship change
<RPC> takes ~2 seconds
<Androgeos> Yeah
<RPC> ok, going back, screwing freigher mission, saving TARDIS
<RPC> ok, it's a go :D
<Androgeos> Good luck
<TVR> Use pause if complications
<RPC> yeah
<RPC> thanks :D
<RPC> ok, got to Korolov station
<RPC> can't shipchange to Hawking :/
<RPC> too fast so I can't get it next to the TARDIS and on the station
* RPC keeps trying
<Androgeos> Target friendly and dock? Does that work?
<RPC> yeah
<TVR> Do you have a targeting rom on the Hawking yet?
<RPC> but then TARDIS is outside of the station
<RPC> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23352181/outside.png
<RPC> so yeah
* Dreadfang (6154b54d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.84.181.77) has joined #transcendence
<TVR> That's not a bad position
<TVR> The Wolfens will hold fire
<RPC> nvm got it
<RPC> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23352181/got%20it.png
<RPC> >:D
<RPC> hopefully they don't attack the Hawking
<TVR> Where is the Hawking, anyways?
<Androgeos> Below the freighter?
<RPC> random pic, but...
<RPC> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23352181/revelations%20o.O.png
<RPC> o.O
* Cimanyd was pinged?
<RPC> Cimanyd: typo : P
<Cirevam> I am you and you are me
<Sutiban> dunno if I should be proud or not, 
<Cimanyd> ~cimnotcir RPC
<Katami> RPC: Cimanyd is not Cirevam
<Sutiban> I got shot down by a hornet.
* StarWeaver hnugs Cirevam and Cimanyd
<RPC> Sutiban: nah, that's not that bad
<RPC> shot down by Centauri raider : P
<Androgeos> Yeah, that...
<RPC> then again, it was my perma challenge...
<Sutiban> that happened before too
<RPC> Androgeos: should I try to get it to irradiate the ships? >:D
<RPC> might be too hard :/
* Cimanyd meows at StarWeaver
<Sutiban>  not too crazy about the wolfen's absurdly small reactor
<Sutiban>  a hull plate ionizer is just too much for it
<Cimanyd> EI500! EI500! 25MW starting reactor :D
* StarWeaver picks up Cimanyd by the shoulder, noses his tummy, and puts him on law
<Sutiban> '
<Sutiban> I love the EI500
<The_Shrike> Mod the wolfen to start with a Class 2 delfector, and it's brilliant.
<RPC> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23352181/situation%20getting%20hot.png
<The_Shrike> Also fixes its problems with the whole "Immune to kinetic" thing.
<Sutiban> the funny thing about kinetic immunity is that everyone scoffs at it past eridini : P
<TVR> As long as you camp near the Korolov station, the retaliation fleet will hold fire
<TVR> Allowing you free potshots
<Cirevam> I love kinetic resistance up until the arena
<StarWeaver> That's only like system 4
<Cirevam> Then I stop caring because blast weapons and stuff
<Sutiban> plus everyone loves laserbeams
<Cimanyd> Star: puts me on law? o.O
<Cimanyd> : P
<StarWeaver> laaap :D
<RPC> should I make a run for it?
<Cirevam> Try it and laugh merrily as you do
<RPC> there's an urak station RIGHT NEXT to the korolov station
<Cimanyd> ~shieldfrom TypoWeaver
* Katami shields Cimanyd from TypoWeaver ... Shields are at 60% strength.
<Dreadfang> damn...
<RPC> if the urak attack the station it's over anyways :/
<Sutiban> plus the wolfen looks kinda ugly : P
<StarWeaver> A Dreadfang?
<TVR> SHould be OK
<Sutiban> one thing I find funny though
<TVR> With those shields, you can tank the explosion
<Sutiban>  the EI500
<Cimanyd> is the best ship in Transcendence?
<Sutiban>  only cargo ship in the fleet with exhaust flames 
* IronParrot squawks at the Dreadfangbat
<Sutiban> and that too
<The_Shrike> Personally, I actually really like the sapphire.
<Sutiban> I like it too
<Cimanyd> less cargo space! :(
<The_Shrike> The EI500 is a bit sluggish, although I can fly any of the three playships perfectly well.
<The_Shrike> *150
<The_Shrike> *whatever it is
<Cimanyd> 150?
<Androgeos> ~qa <Sutiban> the EI500 <Cimanyd> is the best ship in Transcendence? <Sutiban> only cargo ship in the fleet with exhaust flames
<Cimanyd> its 500
<The_Shrike> Because it's....smaller than the 200 and also smaller than the 100?
<Androgeos> Aww, admin function.
<Cimanyd> uhh
<Dreadfang> I got sick today, layed in the tub for hours in the dark.
<Cimanyd> Androgeos: not quite, just Katami has to know who you are
* StarWeaver just realized that him and IronParrot got eaten but the other two didnt o_o
<Androgeos> ~help qa
<Katami> Androgeos: (qa <an alias, at least 1 argument>) -- Alias for "quote add $1 $*".
<Sutiban> what bugs me about the sapphire is the really terrible armor weight restriction
<Cimanyd> Star: yeah? you didn't see?
<StarWeaver> I was asleep, and the site didn't load the first time i tried afterwards
<Sutiban> 6 is barely enough late game, if only it was 10
<Cimanyd> Star: also thanks very much for getting those gates : P
<Androgeos> RPC: I don't think the Urak have that kind of firepower to level a Korolov Station.
<StarWeaver> Yeah, of course then they get me :D
<RPC> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23352181/knew%20it.png
<Androgeos> The Charon do, but you only see that happen once.
<RPC> Androgeos: haven't played DySys : P
<Androgeos> Charon Pirates to the ... rescue?
<TVR> What happened?
<Dreadfang> I can breathe through my ears...
<StarWeaver> Dreadfang, you don't have eardrums?
<TVR> You should get that looked into by a medical professional
<Dreadfang> Silly eardrums have holes in them.
<StarWeaver> Uhh... not usually
<Cimanyd> Androgeos: you already have a Nickserv thingie
<Androgeos> Doesn't do anything for Katami though.
<Cimanyd> if you get a cloak, then register with Katami, you can add quotes and i think some other stuff
<Cimanyd> (cloak in case IP changes)
<Cimanyd> which, in fact, is wh yI have one
<StarWeaver> Cimanyd, IronParrot, Also, I want a cheap device such that if I noticed I'm getting eaten by zombies, I can pull on something and set the house on fire : P
<Dreadfang> Strange... I can do it, and hear just fine...
<RPC> ok, well anyways, got the TARDIS out
<StarWeaver> ~wp perforated eardrum
<Katami> StarWeaver: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perforated_eardrum
<RPC> problem is, I had to jetisson everything so that I could escape, and now I can't find the crate :/
<RPC> so yeah, nothing in the TARDIS now :/
<StarWeaver> Dreadfang, I think there might be a growth anomoly that causes more nautral ones too, but not sure
<RPC> ok, well next system is Charon, so goodluck to the next person who plays >.>
<RPC> good thing is I found some reapers, if that's of any help
<TVR> All the important stuff was the Hawking anyways
<RPC> yeah
<TVR> Was in the*
<TVR> Like the repair droid
<RPC> o.O
<RPC> we had a repair droid?
<RPC> holy
<RPC> I don't remember seeing that...

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23352181/revelations%20o.O.png
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23352181/situa ... %20hot.png
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23352181/knew%20it.png
After that, I was really tired, and looked at the next system. It's Charon. I know when I've had my share of game-crises, but that's part of the fun right?
Anyways, good luck to the next player, and hope you can get past Charon!
Note: Apparently this post went over the smiley count, so I changed the smiley to : P
>.>
Images aren't shown because it would increase loading time, and take up space.

[Androgeos]

I took it through Charon. Here's the save at the end of this turn: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?al33atpl8pgbicd

So I took over for the fourth turn. Since I'm not the kind who likes to take unnecessary risks, I went to loot some wrecks for a bit of spare change. I found three Urak destroyer wrecks near the Stargate to Charon and looted some segments of Heavy Urak Armor and two unidentified cannons from them. At the same time, I jettisoned the Fusion Triggers, just to be safe (their location is marked on the map).

I went to Charon and ran away from Korolov Shipping alost immediately because I didn't want to get caught up in the mess. While finding the St. Katherine's Star stargate, I got sucked into a gravity well. Fortunately, I found that RPC's Hawking ship worked just fine as an anti-gravity tractor beam, as it was trailing behind the TARDIS. If I pressed [D]ock when both ships are aligned in this manner, the Hawkings would reverse me out of a gravity well.

I got into St. Kat's and found the two nodes leading out of the system before I docked with the arcology. Immediately, I was arrested.

"You're under arrest for piracy."

Something RPC did during his last turn apparently caused me to be marked as a pirate, so I was given the option to plead.

I chose Guilty and was let off with a 5000-credit fine.

When that cleared up, the arcology confiscated 3 Reaper Missiles from the TARDIS' cargo hold.

I went to the University quarter and took the Taikon mission on RPC's suggestion. When he asked me what sort of ship I was going to use to salvage the sphere from the Sung transport wreck, I decided to switch to his Hawking for this mission.

The Sung transport was falling towards the sun and was swarmed with Zoanthrope raiders. I parked the TARDIS at a safe distance away, charged right into the mess, docked, got the sphere and got out just as the Hawking's shields went critical. I raced back to the TARDIS with the entire swarm just behind me and switched control back to the freighter just as they caught up. I then dispatched the swarm using the TARDIS' dual omnidirectional lasers.

After transferring the sphere from the Hawking, I flew back to the arcology and got the Galactic Map. Whoopee.

To make up for the 5000-credit fine, I sold the two unidentified cannons (one marked "Not Thermo", the other marked "Deathray") and got back about 1500 credits, so the current game has about 4000 credits of spare change. I also blew a bit of credits on identifying the barrels in the TARDIS' hold. I found 2 barrels of carbon-weaver nanos, 7 barrels of radioactive waste (ENGH), 7 barrels of ablative armor coating and a barrel of reactive armor coating.

Final party shot at turn end:



I lost five Solar Drones, but both the Hawkings and TARDIS are still unscratched.

[RPC]

Yay Androgeos!
Nice to know it works (or at least, crawls sufficiently) on a Mac
Yeah, I did get blacklisted by a Korolov station, they were having a fight with a nearby Urak station and some Sapiens, and I guess the TARDIS must've kill stolen a friendly ship :/
Anyways, I'll be off for tonight, but I'd like to go back to Charon and get the Korolov reward.

[PM]

A tip for those who do not know: After your first ship receives the galactic map, change to your other ships and visit Dall to get the galactic map for them too. Any new ship acquired after receiving the map will get the map automatically installed for free.

Hmmm... maybe in a PSD update, copy the galactic map on ship change?

[RPC]

Huh, I didn't think of that.
Thanks for the tip PM!

[RPC]

Update:
Found where the Makayev Cruiser comes from, it's Encounter Expansion.
Nice job TheLastBrunnenG!

[RPC]

I lied.
I didn't go back to Charon, (I wanted to get some better weapons first), but my time got cut short so we're in the system next to St. Kat's. Lots of fighting going on, now that the Sung are there. DO NOT MESS WITH THE SUNG. Seriously. They killed me in ~5 seconds, so yeah. :/
I took PM's advice and installed the Galactic Map on the Hawking as well, so far we're ~1/4 the way to Heretic.
There's something wrong with repair droids. Although it says "back to work", it doesn't reinstall. This is probably due to the way George messed with the code for installing devices over the past few versions. I'll try to see if I can fix it, and get a patch out soon.
As usual, pics!

St Kat's never looked so good...
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23352181/St%20Kats2.png
Charon fortress in St Kats o.O
There was a pirate with this almost impenetrable shield... seriously. It took ~3 minutes before all the guards of St Kat's could kill it, and the alarm on my ship was going crazy...
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23352181/Pirate%20ARRR.png
Sometimes I have a feeling that the Charon are actively attacking St Kats, and here's another of their attack squads.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23352181/Charo ... %20out.png
Anybody know what this does? I was going to buy, but for some reason all the cash disappeared....
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23352181/Zap.png
Oh yeah, and don't mess with the Sung.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23352181/Sung.png
Although they have particle weapons, they have a fully fleshed out fleet, which also means that they can curbstomp even the occasional Britannia that happens to show up in the system. IAV squads are having a trouble as well, and Korolov can't really fight back
I could have gotten slaves, but if I did I would be pinced by the Sung fleet in the upper left hand corner.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23352181/Slaves.png
So yeah, goodbye Domina powers...
Here's where I camped:

It's not a bad place, and I turned off the NAMI missile launcher so that the freighter doesn't waste missiles and can stay without (hopefully) getting destroyed. The next player should go out and scout in the Hawking(the V-fighter), and store loot in the TARDIS (the freighter). I'm thinking that if we get enough money we can get a ~10000 ton cargo freighter in St Kats with 3 weapons slots that can defend itself, because the TARDIS sometimes runs out of cargospace and it only has a forward mount :/
EDIT:
Forgot to add the save.

[PM]

RPC: ZapSat (from Items912) is a recreation of the Chmmr ZapSats from Star Control 2. They orbit the playership (or a given target) and automatically zap missiles or enemy ships (but not stations) with either a turbolaser (ZapSat) or heavy particle beam (KillSat). They are very fast, but somewhat fragile. Commands work a bit differently for these autons. [A]ttack tells the ZapSat to orbit the given target. The beams they fire come from an ICX-like device the fires at nearby missiles or ships, and they have short range. reak tells it to orbit, zap, and kill all enemy ships in range. [F]orm will tell it to orbit the playership. If it is already orbiting the playership, [F]orm will tell it to dock with the playership (and revert into an item). Note: Telling a ZapSat to attack a friendly target is like telling it to escort and protect the target.

One of them is not very effective, but get three or more and they can do some nasty damage.

[RPC]

Does the ICX-like device also intercept missiles or is it purely offensive?