the (sub)domains that make up mutikronoscendence-game.com

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Hi George,

Based on your announcement that you now also run a twitter account, I started clicking the various links that exist on various pages pointing to various (sub)domains with various links to various other (sub)domains. (Let's not mention pages on those domains, or talk about the various method of reaching them).

I could so far identify the following (sub)domains/services in use by Kronosaur production for the two games (Anacreon and Transcendence):
(I may just have missed some.. I did not map out all pages.)

Don't you think it may be a nice idea to streamline your official channels of communications a bit?

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You're right: it's confusing. Some of it is historical; some of it is in transition; and some of it is just poorly thought-out.

Let me set out the basic method behind this madness. Ultimately, I would like to adhere to the following guidelines:

1. All Transcendence information should be easily accessible from http://transcendence.kronosaur.com. I don't mean all information has to live on that domain, but all information must be easily accessible via links. Obviously, the most important information will require the fewest number of link clicks.

We're not there yet. But that's my goal. If there is specific information that anyone feels needs to be more easily accessible, please post examples in the Community forum [or PM me].

[Same thing applies to Anacreon and http://anacreon.kronosaur.com.]

2. In general, community resources should span games. The forums, the Multiverse, the (future) bugs database, will cover all Kronosaur games. Of course, there will be some segmentation within (just as there is within the forums), but I don't want to have separate community resources for separate games, because I believe the community will mostly transcend specific games.

Thus each of those resources will likely have a full subdomain:

forums.kronosaur.com
multiverse.kronosaur.com
ministry.kronosaur.com (future bugs database)

For the same reason, I think communicating with the company should be cross-game. Rather than have [email protected] (etc.) we're just going to have [email protected]. People should not have to deal with trying to remember email addresses. [Other email addresses may server other purposes--for example, [email protected] is generally for press inquiries and cold calls. But [email protected] will always work for any customer issue (bugs, feedback, purchase problems, etc.)]

3. All news about Transcendence should go out over every available channel. You should be able to follow whatever source you want (forums, Facebook, Twitter, whatever) without fear of missing something. You should NOT be forced to follow everything.

Right now, I'm violating that rule because I'm trying to get more Twitter followers. I'm trying to experiment to see if posting some exclusive content (temporarily) on Twitter will entice people to follow it (so far, it seems the answer is no).

Note also that the process of new dissemination requires community participation. RPC and others work very hard to keep the Facebook page running. Ttech and lots of others keep the IRC channel going. [And if anyone wants to volunteer to run a Reddit subgroup, I would love to hear from you.]

So that's my plan. I hope it makes sense, but if not, let me know. Suggestions are more than welcome.

Any URLs/domains I didn't mention are likely in transition or are just shortcuts. For example:

http://transcendence-game.com redirects to http://transcendence.kronosaur.com. In general, I use this URL in ads, because I think the URL is more memorable (I might also get the domain without the hyphen.)

http://trans.kronosaur.com is a temporary set of pages that happen to be hosted on a different physical server. Ultimately all this will be folded into http://transcendence.kronosaur.com.

The Transcendence wiki is another community run project. It will continue at its current URL.
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I can see how it came to be as it is, I can also follow your intended structure.

Some things to consider:
george moromisato wrote:http://transcendence-game.com redirects to http://transcendence.kronosaur.com. In general, I use this URL in ads, because I think the URL is more memorable (I might also get the domain without the hyphen.)
I'm not at all sure that this is the best strategy, for two reasons. 1. redirects score low with search engines; most SEO dos-and-donts list redirects (even in paid ads) are on the don't-list. 2. Users come to recognize a URL (for this reason, the old URLs should stay active with a 'moved permanently' redirect). The canonical URL for Transcendence is http://transcendence.kronosaur.com, so I would definately recommend using this URL in every as much as possible.
(and the same is true for Anacreon, of course)

Then, the general site structure:
Sub-domains are good because they give a hard separation of interest within a domain. Yet, too many sub-domains defeat the purpose of clear separation and hurt your search engine rank. So, in this light, I would suggest the following: This would boost the number of external links to (a small number of) kronosaur.com sub-domains while at the same time (in my opinion) create a clear base structure for all users. The community sub-domain both advertises the other games and offers community tools such as forums, information on each specific game can be found on the game's sub-domain and info about the company behind it all can be found on the main domain.

(I'm not saying that this is the only good solution (everyone has his/her own ideas when it comes to SEO for sure) but I thought it could be nice to have someone else's view on your plan)

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pixelfck wrote:Sub-domains are good because they give a hard separation of interest within a domain. Yet, too many sub-domains defeat the purpose of clear separation and hurt your search engine rank. So, in this light, I would suggest the following:
The other constraint, unfortunately, is technological. I use subdomains to point to different servers. For example, the forums are implemented on a different server from the multiverse or the upcoming tracker (in fact, they are implemented in different data centers).

Besides, why force the user to remember 3 tokens ("community" "kronosaur.com" "forums") instead of two tokens ("forums" "kronosaur.com")?

I 100% agree that we need one page to point to all the community resources. That's a great idea. And I also agree with the game-specific and company-specific URLs.
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george moromisato wrote:Besides, why force the user to remember 3 tokens ("community" "kronosaur.com" "forums") instead of two tokens ("forums" "kronosaur.com")?
I would do this mostly because as the setup is right now, the forums are a separate (unconnected) entity within the ecosystem of URLs and sub-domains used by Kronosaur.

I think that moving the forums to become an integrated part of the overall website (sub)structure [for example by giving the forums the (more or less) same header and footer as your other pages], you increase the chances of us forum dwellers actually spotting (for example) a new news item, without the requirement of you cross-posting the link on the forums, as is the common practice right now.
Yet, as I wrote before, I'm just giving my opinion on the matter and my idea is not necessarily better than yours :)

Also, the different server physical setup is a pain when it comes to being SEO friendly. Yet there is usually not a lot that can be done about it (as you pointed out).

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Transcendence.Kronosaur.Com is currently the first google hit for "transcendence" not related to a major motion picture released this year. Ranking cheese isn't going to make things significantly better.
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Atarlost wrote:Transcendence.Kronosaur.Com is currently the first google hit for "transcendence" not related to a major motion picture released this year. Ranking cheese isn't going to make things significantly better.
The ugly thing about google: search results are 'personalised'. So your search results may show it as an high ranking result. But that was just a secondary point; the main issue is getting the other resources (news, guidebook, etc) within the attention scope of the forum community.

Also, as stated before, I'm giving my advice; but there is no need for anyone to follow it.

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Hmm, just another note:

I just discovered that there is both http://multiverse.kronosaur.com/transGuideIndex.hexm and http://trans.kronosaur.com/guidebook.hexm.
Maybe create a redirect for one of the two instead?


Edit:
http://multiverse.kronosaur.com/transGuideIndex.hexm contains a list of dead links...

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