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Zulaf
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sometimes when i save the game crashes it still saves the game thankfuly, but its geting annoying.

Sorry i cant be more spacific about the bug.
Next time i get it ill try to get more info on it.

Edit: Happened when i used a gate also but didnt save it and no error message
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george moromisato
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Ugh...that sucks.

Any information you have to help me reproduce it would help. I will add some debug code in the next version to help.
Zulaf
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Ok i usally ignore error messages(have to stop doing that) and it was just the send bug report thing on windows xp...

So heres the text from the debug readme from the first day it started crashing.

07/11/2006 12:13:18 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
07/11/2006 12:13:18 Start logging session
07/11/2006 12:13:18 Transcendence 0.96a
07/11/2006 12:13:24 Loading extension: Extensions\Arena Extension
07/11/2006 12:13:24 Loading extension: Extensions\Bugbane
07/11/2006 12:13:24 Loading extension: Extensions\Fichikai_Construction_Plant
07/11/2006 12:13:24 Loading extension: Extensions\NavCache
07/11/2006 12:13:24 Loading extension: Extensions\planets
07/11/2006 12:13:24 Loading extension: Extensions\SPDroidGroup
07/11/2006 12:13:24 Loading extension: Extensions\Taxman
07/11/2006 12:13:24 Loading extension: Extensions\ThomsAutons
07/11/2006 12:13:24 Loading extension: Extensions\Transcendence
07/11/2006 12:13:25 Unable to load extension: incompatible version: 0x00093D00
07/11/2006 12:13:25 Loading extension: Extensions\variegation
07/11/2006 13:30:04 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
07/11/2006 13:30:04 Start logging session
07/11/2006 13:30:04 Transcendence 0.96a
07/11/2006 13:30:09 Loading extension: Extensions\Arena Extension
07/11/2006 13:30:09 Loading extension: Extensions\Bugbane
07/11/2006 13:30:09 Loading extension: Extensions\Fichikai_Construction_Plant
07/11/2006 13:30:09 Loading extension: Extensions\NavCache
07/11/2006 13:30:09 Loading extension: Extensions\planets
07/11/2006 13:30:09 Loading extension: Extensions\SPDroidGroup
07/11/2006 13:30:09 Loading extension: Extensions\Taxman
07/11/2006 13:30:09 Loading extension: Extensions\ThomsAutons
07/11/2006 13:30:09 Loading extension: Extensions\Transcendence
07/11/2006 13:30:09 Unable to load extension: incompatible version: 0x00093D00
07/11/2006 13:30:09 Loading extension: Extensions\variegation
07/11/2006 13:59:57 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
07/11/2006 13:59:57 Start logging session
07/11/2006 13:59:57 Transcendence 0.96a
07/11/2006 14:00:02 Loading extension: Extensions\Arena Extension
07/11/2006 14:00:02 Loading extension: Extensions\Bugbane
07/11/2006 14:00:02 Loading extension: Extensions\Fichikai_Construction_Plant
07/11/2006 14:00:02 Loading extension: Extensions\NavCache
07/11/2006 14:00:02 Loading extension: Extensions\planets
07/11/2006 14:00:02 Loading extension: Extensions\SPDroidGroup
07/11/2006 14:00:02 Loading extension: Extensions\Taxman
07/11/2006 14:00:02 Loading extension: Extensions\ThomsAutons
07/11/2006 14:00:02 Loading extension: Extensions\Transcendence
07/11/2006 14:00:02 Unable to load extension: incompatible version: 0x00093D00
07/11/2006 14:00:02 Loading extension: Extensions\variegation
07/11/2006 14:08:01 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
07/11/2006 14:08:01 Start logging session
07/11/2006 14:08:01 Transcendence 0.96a
07/11/2006 14:08:06 Loading extension: Extensions\Arena Extension
07/11/2006 14:08:07 Loading extension: Extensions\Bugbane
07/11/2006 14:08:07 Loading extension: Extensions\Fichikai_Construction_Plant
07/11/2006 14:08:07 Loading extension: Extensions\NavCache
07/11/2006 14:08:07 Loading extension: Extensions\planets
07/11/2006 14:08:07 Loading extension: Extensions\SPDroidGroup
07/11/2006 14:08:07 Loading extension: Extensions\Taxman
07/11/2006 14:08:07 Loading extension: Extensions\ThomsAutons
07/11/2006 14:08:07 Loading extension: Extensions\Transcendence
07/11/2006 14:08:07 Unable to load extension: incompatible version: 0x00093D00
07/11/2006 14:08:07 Loading extension: Extensions\variegation
07/11/2006 14:36:32 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
07/11/2006 14:36:32 Start logging session
07/11/2006 14:36:32 Transcendence 0.96a
07/11/2006 14:36:37 Loading extension: Extensions\Arena Extension
07/11/2006 14:36:37 Loading extension: Extensions\Bugbane
07/11/2006 14:36:37 Loading extension: Extensions\Fichikai_Construction_Plant
07/11/2006 14:36:38 Loading extension: Extensions\NavCache
07/11/2006 14:36:38 Loading extension: Extensions\planets
07/11/2006 14:36:38 Loading extension: Extensions\SPDroidGroup
07/11/2006 14:36:38 Loading extension: Extensions\Taxman
07/11/2006 14:36:38 Loading extension: Extensions\ThomsAutons
07/11/2006 14:36:38 Loading extension: Extensions\Transcendence
07/11/2006 14:36:38 Unable to load extension: incompatible version: 0x00093D00
07/11/2006 14:36:38 Loading extension: Extensions\variegation
07/11/2006 14:37:51 End logging session
07/12/2006 09:06:19 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
07/12/2006 09:06:19 Start logging session
07/12/2006 09:06:19 Transcendence 0.96a
07/12/2006 09:06:24 Loading extension: Extensions\Arena Extension
07/12/2006 09:06:24 Loading extension: Extensions\Bugbane
07/12/2006 09:06:24 Loading extension: Extensions\Fichikai_Construction_Plant
07/12/2006 09:06:24 Loading extension: Extensions\NavCache
07/12/2006 09:06:24 Loading extension: Extensions\planets
07/12/2006 09:06:25 Loading extension: Extensions\SPDroidGroup
07/12/2006 09:06:25 Loading extension: Extensions\Taxman
07/12/2006 09:06:25 Loading extension: Extensions\ThomsAutons
07/12/2006 09:06:25 Loading extension: Extensions\Transcendence
07/12/2006 09:06:26 Unable to load extension: incompatible version: 0x00093D00
07/12/2006 09:06:26 Loading extension: Extensions\variegation
07/12/2006 09:06:41 Unable to continue due to program error

program state: animating
game state: unknown

Please contact ----------------- with a copy of Debug.log. We are sorry for the inconvenience.

07/12/2006 09:06:49 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
07/12/2006 09:06:49 Start logging session
07/12/2006 09:06:49 Transcendence 0.96a
07/12/2006 09:06:53 Loading extension: Extensions\Arena Extension
07/12/2006 09:06:53 Loading extension: Extensions\Bugbane
07/12/2006 09:06:53 Loading extension: Extensions\Fichikai_Construction_Plant
07/12/2006 09:06:53 Loading extension: Extensions\NavCache
07/12/2006 09:06:53 Loading extension: Extensions\planets
07/12/2006 09:06:54 Loading extension: Extensions\SPDroidGroup
07/12/2006 09:06:54 Loading extension: Extensions\Taxman
07/12/2006 09:06:54 Loading extension: Extensions\ThomsAutons
07/12/2006 09:06:54 Loading extension: Extensions\Transcendence
07/12/2006 09:06:54 Unable to load extension: incompatible version: 0x00093D00
07/12/2006 09:06:54 Loading extension: Extensions\variegation



When i looked at this i relized how many mods i had on and maybe its a combo of them that dose it? and what is this mean?

Unable to load extension: incompatible version: 0x00093D0

maybe its the cause?

I also go this on start up in the loading screen.

program state: animating
game state: unknown
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Yugi
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The crash may be the fault of my dodgy Fichikai Construction Plant ;)
I don't know about the other mods, but I do know that my CP doesn't work.
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Yugimotomanager wrote:The crash may be the fault of my dodgy Fichikai Construction Plant ;)
LOL....i'm sorry that made me chuckle.....
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Karl
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Yugimotomanager wrote:The crash may be the fault of my dodgy Fichikai Construction Plant ;)
You are correct. :-)

Specifically, it's the Fichikai Construction Plant station. The rest of the Fichikai mod seems to work fine. I finally got it to work, though.... and discovered a couple of game bugs in the process.

OK, there are 3 major issues with stFichikaiConstructionPlant that need to be fixed before it won't crash:

1. First, the station's unid is 0xD0C40000, the same as the file's unid! That is just bad. Change it to something like 0xD0C42001.

2. Second, if the chance numbers in a table don't add up to 100%, the game crashes. So you need to change the chance numbers in the ship table and the reinforcement table so that they add up to a hundred percent.

3. Third, if an armor repairer item is placed as a station device, the game crashes. So, you need to remove the itFichikaiArmorHealer from the station's device list.

I hope George is reading this, so he can track and fix these bugs--if he hasn't found and fixed them already. I guess a good way to bug-check a program is to unleash a bunch of crazy modders on it. :-)
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Karl wrote:.... and discovered a couple of game bugs in the process.
Very cool! As always, you're investigative powers have helped a lot.

The second problem (chance numbers don't add up) is, I believe, better in the new version. Since I now process the table at load time (instead of at use-time) I can now spit out an error earlier. [p.s. This is another case in which waiting to parse the XML until later leads to problems.]

The third problem needs to be fixed (it's low priority now, but it should be fixed before 1.0). Basically, not all devices are usable by stations right now. There are enough differences between ships and stations that some things don't quite work. But they should...

Thanks again for catching these!
Last edited by george moromisato on Tue Jul 18, 2006 2:14 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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evilbob
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The extension that appears to be causing the problem is "variegation"
I used this mod and had the same problem.
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Specifically, it's the Fichikai Construction Plant station. The rest of the Fichikai mod seems to work fine. I finally got it to work, though.... and discovered a couple of game bugs in the process.

OK, there are 3 major issues with stFichikaiConstructionPlant that need to be fixed before it won't crash:

1. First, the station's unid is 0xD0C40000, the same as the file's unid! That is just bad. Change it to something like 0xD0C42001.

2. Second, if the chance numbers in a table don't add up to 100%, the game crashes. So you need to change the chance numbers in the ship table and the reinforcement table so that they add up to a hundred percent.

3. Third, if an armor repairer item is placed as a station device, the game crashes. So, you need to remove the itFichikaiArmorHealer from the station's device list.[/quote]

I already know these. I am a skilled modder (http://s8.invisionfree.com/Transcendenc ... topic=1345), I just haven't gotten round to updating my ships and stations yet :P
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