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Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:53 pm

ThePrivateer wrote:Please note that the advice I (or other reviewers) give is to be considered as a guide only, and if any advice I give directly or indirectly leads to an adverse reaction in any way, I (or other reviewers) am not to be held responsible.
Woah. That sounds like some serious legal content. So are you expecting in game to dock to a St. Kats arcology, only to be confronted by a recently revived Pilgrim saying "I'm suing you for making me detonate myself with Shrike's mines. You owe me 100000 creds to pay for my insurance."
Of course, that would only happen when George's 24th century Commonwealth descendant finally makes Trans multi player. Although you would stop playing the game as you hear Domina's voice...
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Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:30 am

RPC wrote:
ThePrivateer wrote:Please note that the advice I (or other reviewers) give is to be considered as a guide only, and if any advice I give directly or indirectly leads to an adverse reaction in any way, I (or other reviewers) am not to be held responsible.
Woah. That sounds like some serious legal content. So are you expecting in game to dock to a St. Kats arcology, only to be confronted by a recently revived Pilgrim saying "I'm suing you for making me detonate myself with Shrike's mines. You owe me 100000 creds to pay for my insurance."
Of course, that would only happen when George's 24th century Commonwealth descendant finally makes Trans multi player. Although you would stop playing the game as you hear Domina's voice...
>.<

I only meant to protect ourselves in case someone's mega-computer crashes because they used a mod I/someone else reccommended.

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Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:36 am

Using a mod should mean that they take responsibility for what happens to their computer, like what Trans says for itself, which is something to the effect of:
if you use this, and it kills the computer, its your fault.
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RPC wrote:Using a mod should mean that they take responsibility for what happens to their computer, like what Trans says for itself, which is something to the effect of:
if you use this, and it kills the computer, its your fault.
True, but it pays to have this kind of stuff in words anyway - and Xelerus doesn't have that kind of disclaimer afaik.

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Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:17 pm

Its implied, but I could imagine the legal guard. However, I don't think any mod can damage a computer even though a legal view.
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http://wiki.neurohack.com/transcendence ... _standards

Those are the standards that xelerus links to

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Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:35 am

Ttech wrote:Its implied, but I could imagine the legal guard. However, I don't think any mod can damage a computer even though a legal view.
We can mess around until we make one that can......but I suspect that that would be counterproductive. :P


Also: I did a disclaimer for SM&M anyway. It's buried in my garden under a gnome, but you are assumed to have read it if you download the mod. :twisted:
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Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:49 pm

Well it can write to the debug log, thats 'bout it.
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Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:51 pm

Mods can crash / lock up the computer under certain conditions. You may lose unsaved data but no permanent damage.
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Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:00 pm

Bobby wrote:Mods can crash / lock up the computer under certain conditions. You may lose unsaved data but no permanent damage.
For example tell the game spawn a ship with the ship xml saying it is escorted by itself. :twisted:
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that would have to be done in script :P
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Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:34 pm

Not really

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<ShipClass="&scShip;"...


<Escorts>
        <Ship count="1" class="&scShip;" orders="escort"/>
</Escorts>
</ShipClass>
That means the ship is escorted by itself who is himself escorted by himself who is himself escorted by himself who is himself escorted by himself who is himself escorted by himself who is himself escorted by himself who is himself escorted by himself who is himself escorted by himself who is himself escorted by himself who is himself escorted by himself who is himself escorted by himself who is himself escorted by himself who is himself escorted by himself on and on forever. For some reason the computer can't compute infinity... :twisted:
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Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:27 am

Drako Slyith wrote:
Bobby wrote:Mods can crash / lock up the computer under certain conditions. You may lose unsaved data but no permanent damage.
For example tell the game spawn a ship with the ship xml saying it is escorted by itself. :twisted:
It's not up to us to determine what is or isn't permanent damage or what may be classed as bad damage by an individual. Whilst I agree that any lasting or permanent damage is almost impossible, it's a good practice to provide a legal escape clause for us. You never know if you'll get some person, in the future who has a computer crash because he used a dodgy mod and comes looking for someone to accuse. So for that reason, Xelerus ought to have the Disclaimer page and I figured it would be useful to have a quick one here as well.
Drako Slyith wrote:Not really

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<ShipClass="&scShip;"...


<Escorts>
        <Ship count="1" class="&scShip;" orders="escort"/>
</Escorts>
</ShipClass>
That means the ship is escorted by itself who is himself escorted by himself who is himself escorted by himself who is himself escorted by himself who is himself escorted by himself who is himself escorted by himself who is himself escorted by himself who is himself escorted by himself who is himself escorted by himself who is himself escorted by himself who is himself escorted by himself who is himself escorted by himself who is himself escorted by himself on and on forever. For some reason the computer can't compute infinity... :twisted:
I tried that. I imagine pandora's box looked kind of like that when it was opened. Absolute chaos until the game crashes. >.>

On that train of thought I will also add that a crashed application that then goes on to freeze up some guy's old Windows 98 Pentium II, which then blows up the old CPU and means he can't work until he fixes it is another (unlikely) disaster scenario.

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Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:29 am

Hey guys, do you want me to chunk this discussion in a separate thread? Keep this just for reviews?
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Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:52 am

Ttech wrote:Hey guys, do you want me to chunk this discussion in a separate thread? Keep this just for reviews?
(as the author of this thread)

Yes please, thanks alot Ttech! :D

Seperate it off into a discussion about Legal Issues with Mods. :)

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