Proof of string theory/multiple universes ?

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http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg1 ... verse.html

In 2006, Mersini-Houghton with collaborators predicted a series of observational imprints that would support a multiverse theory: multiple universes.

Recent analysis of WMAP data seems to support this theory: there is a giant hole in the universe in the direction of the Eridanus constellation: the largest supervoid known measuring around 1 billion light years of diameter.
From Wikipedia: It was discovered by linking a "cold spot" in the cosmic microwave background to an absence of radio galaxies in data of the US National Radio Astronomy Observatory's Very Large Array Sky Survey. There is some speculation that the void may be due to quantum entanglement between our universe and another.

More to read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eridanus_% ... #Supervoid
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WMAP_cold_spot

[Drako Slyith]

There is some speculation that the void may be due to quantum entanglement between our universe and another.

I do support this theory, but speculation is by no means proof. For absolute proof someone would have have to either go to a parallel universe or see someone come over from a parallel universe. Or a probe would do. The only way to prove the parallel universe exists is for mass or enough photons pass through the entanglement to have a clear image recorded. Something would have to come over. There is no proof anything exists unless it is observed through one of the five senses. (I'm not paranoid by the way, I'm speaking bare evidence 'I think therefore I am'. ) I do think there must be multiple universes, but there speculation is not proof. The quantum entanglement could just be a natural phenomenon, such as undiscovered elements or forms of matter.

[ThePrivateer]

I love the idea of parellel universes!
My favourite tv show is J.J. Abrams' FRINGE.

It boggles the mind - first to consider that there is a large solar system outside of earth, then an entire galaxy of solar system, then a universe of galaxies and then multiple universes.

[Ttech]

I see a major influx in books about alternate universes!
This is an amazing find, well, its facinating. I love all this stuff on alternate worlds and stuff, but when you really start to think abut it gets quite confusing.

[alterecco]

Next up:

Time is a joke, a trick of perception!

[Ttech]

Next up:

Time is a joke, a trick of perception!

it is a joke.

[Prophet]

But does time have a force -carrying particle or is it simply wasted energy radiated from the higgs boson as it decays?

There have been as many theories about multiple universes, parallel universes and every possible combination in between for millenia. Direct observation would most likely not be physically possible but I would settle for a nice mathematical model.

[Ttech]

But does time have a force -carrying particle or is it simply wasted energy radiated from the higgs boson as it decays?

There have been as many theories about multiple universes, parallel universes and every possible combination in between for millenia. Direct observation would most likely not be physically possible but I would settle for a nice mathematical model.

But if the LHC finds the higgs boson, the we would have a new universe and even stranger one.

[Drako Slyith]

But does time have a force -carrying particle or is it simply wasted energy radiated from the higgs boson as it decays?

There have been as many theories about multiple universes, parallel universes and every possible combination in between for millenia. Direct observation would most likely not be physically possible but I would settle for a nice mathematical model.

But if the LHC finds the higgs boson, the we would have a new universe and even stranger one.

Not necessarily. That is purely theoretical.


By the way I've been thinking and found proof against the every eventuality multi-verse. If there is a universe with every eventuality, then there would be a group of universes where there is a gateway to our universe. Then, if every eventuality were to happen, then there would be a group of those universes that unleashed a wave of death into our universe and killed us. Therefore because we are alive, a universe cannot exist for each eventuality.

[alterecco]

By the way I've been thinking and found proof against the every eventuality multi-verse. If there is a universe with every eventuality, then there would be a group of universes where there is a gateway to our universe. Then, if every eventuality were to happen, then there would be a group of those universes that unleashed a wave of death into our universe and killed us. Therefore because we are alive, a universe cannot exist for each eventuality.

http://xkcd.com/716/

Perhaps we populate the eventuality where this does not take place?:D

I think the idea of all eventualities existing simultaneously is kind of silly. It is probably more like all coherent and logical (basically, apply a survivability function) eventualities that exist. Something that is apt to destroy itself and all other eventualities would quickly get pruned, just like in nature.

[Drako Slyith]

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Anyway, the universe is not selective. The theory of the multi-verse is not that anything can happen, its that everything does happen. The wave would hit every universe.

[Ttech]

The thing that actually stopped him from creating the time machine to stop the universe from existing was butting a bit of angel food cake on a tray and magnifying it to the size of the universe. Thus showing now insignificant it all was.

[Prophet]

I don't think the Eridanus supervoid is proof of the many-worlds theory, in which, each possible universe occupies the same space and time as ours but parallel in an alternate 'dimension'.

Alternatively, I view this discovery as further proof that our universe is not unique, that the big-bang is a recurring event and there exists other co-universes in our multiverse, just as there are multiple galaxies.


Either way, it's an exciting observation that has spurred much speculation regarding the true state of reality and will hopefully lead to a better understanding of this soap-bubble soup we live in.

[Ttech]

I don't think the Eridanus supervoid is proof of the many-worlds theory, in which, each possible universe occupies the same space and time as ours but parallel in an alternate 'dimension'.

Alternatively, I view this discovery as further proof that our universe is not unique, that the big-bang is a recurring event and there exists other co-universes in our multiverse, just as there are multiple galaxies.


Either way, it's an exciting observation that has spurred much speculation regarding the true state of reality and will hopefully lead to a better understanding of this soap-bubble soup we live in.

I don't see how it could represent a alternate universe, but I'm a scientist. So I don't really know.

[Drako Slyith]

Personally, I do not believe in the big bang for several reasons.
1. Telescopes have gotten to the point that they are limited to how much light has reached Earth. They can't see some things because the light hasn't had time to reach earth. Therefore, the very verge of what we see would be the instant that time started. We should be able to see the wave of gasses expanding. But we don't.
2. The only solution for the above reason is that it would have to travel past the speed of light, which incidentally is part of the theory. That would be well and good if science didn't prove that mass cannot travel past the speed of light. The mass would reach infinite, and require infinite energy to move it, which would again repeat the process leading to the mass equaling infinite to the infinite power. Mass can't be moved past the speed of light, to sum it up.
3. The theory states that two particles traveling past the speed of light (see above) and impact, creating an explosion that created a super dense star that then went supernova and shot gasses across the cosmos which then somehow condensed into planets and stars. If the big bang was caused by two particles hitting each other, why hasn't it happened again in our universe?
3.b. Mass cannot be created or destroyed, as the big bang theory says is what happened when the two particles hit each other.
3.c. If you say the mass was already there, where was it? If it was in the particles they would become black holes and swallow each other.
3.d. If you say it was scattered, how was it gathered into an explosion?
4. Where did the mass in 3. come from? Science states that all things have a beginning and an end. So where did the universe begin?

The big bang theory is a theory created to fit as many requirements as possible, and keep science in the mix. The simple truth is that science cannot explain everything.