Kourtious wrote:Ramjets cannot fly between 2 different nebulaes.
This is a bug, I believe. No ship can enter rift zones (white areas). But a ramjet should be able to travel between light (purple) and dark nebulae. If you can reproduce this, then I'd love it if someone could add a bug to Ministry.
Oh. I always thought that was intentional.
Can we keep it? Pleeeaaassee??? If you get a sector capital and a ramjet yard in a little patch of light nebula surrounded by dark nebula, you are nearly invulnerable because only weaker jumpships that can't compete with the ramjets power-wise can get in. Pleeaasse?
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Kourtious wrote:Ramjets cannot fly between 2 different nebulaes.
This is a bug, I believe. No ship can enter rift zones (white areas). But a ramjet should be able to travel between light (purple) and dark nebulae. If you can reproduce this, then I'd love it if someone could add a bug to Ministry.
I tested this out several times before I retired from the game. Since the game hasn't updated, I will naturally assume that this "bug" is still in place.
In addition, I have a question for you George, since this is the Anacreon Q&A thread. What was your base for the idea of adding Ramjets & Nebulaes to game. Is it simply to add a new spin/increase potential for Anacreon?
Kourtious wrote:Ramjets cannot fly between 2 different nebulaes.
This is a bug, I believe. No ship can enter rift zones (white areas). But a ramjet should be able to travel between light (purple) and dark nebulae. If you can reproduce this, then I'd love it if someone could add a bug to Ministry.
This was the first bug I posted to Ministry back in January.
Kourtious wrote:Ramjets cannot fly between 2 different nebulaes.
Obviously ramjets are "stuck" in the nebula they are created in. The question is within a contiguous nebular region consisting of light & dark nebula, can move between the light & dark nebula?
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george moromisato wrote:
This is a bug, I believe. No ship can enter rift zones (white areas). But a ramjet should be able to travel between light (purple) and dark nebulae. If you can reproduce this, then I'd love it if someone could add a bug to Ministry.
This was the first bug I posted to Ministry back in January.
Nope. Just tried with more Hammerheads, but they can't plot a course. I don't see why it should work differently for higher-level ships, but it's going to be some time before I can test it myself.
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I think the issue may have something to do with the way that light and dark nebulas overlap. You can see at areas where they come together that the dark nebulas are laid down over the light nebulas in some places, with little corners of the light nebulas sticking out from underneath. I don't know if ships can tell which nebula they are in, or whether that has anything to do with it.
catfighter wrote:Nope. Just tried with more Hammerheads, but they can't plot a course. I don't see why it should work differently for higher-level ships, but it's going to be some time before I can test it myself.
I was able to navigate a Cerberus gunship from a light nebula to a dark nebula and it worked fine. I did have to provide several very clear intermediate waypoints.
The issue is not travel between light and dark nebula, it's an issue with the pathfinding.
catfighter wrote:Nope. Just tried with more Hammerheads, but they can't plot a course. I don't see why it should work differently for higher-level ships, but it's going to be some time before I can test it myself.
I was able to navigate a Cerberus gunship from a light nebula to a dark nebula and it worked fine. I did have to provide several very clear intermediate waypoints.
The issue is not travel between light and dark nebula, it's an issue with the pathfinding.
Hmmm... My hammerhead took a straight, unobstructed path with an ETA of 6 watches. It was a really short, simple, and straight path, but I got the "can't plot course message". The planets are seriously right next to each other, so I don't see why the AI can't handle it, but would still let a Cerberus through. How far (how many watches) did your ramjet travel?
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catfighter wrote:Nope. Just tried with more Hammerheads, but they can't plot a course. I don't see why it should work differently for higher-level ships, but it's going to be some time before I can test it myself.
I was able to navigate a Cerberus gunship from a light nebula to a dark nebula and it worked fine. I did have to provide several very clear intermediate waypoints.
The issue is not travel between light and dark nebula, it's an issue with the pathfinding.
Hmmm... My hammerhead took a straight, unobstructed path with an ETA of 6 watches. It was a really short, simple, and straight path, but I got the "can't plot course message". The planets are seriously right next to each other, so I don't see why the AI can't handle it, but would still let a Cerberus through. How far (how many watches) did your ramjet travel?
Is there a trick to making effective long term use of barren worlds? In picking up the scraps around, a lot of my worlds are barren worlds, and I seem to spend a lot of time dealing with rebellions, shortages of goods, and waiting for efficiency and populations to recover.
I often use them for trade hubs, sometimes for foundations, sometimes for CGAs focused on durables and luxuries. I tend to pull the tech level fairly high, and throw in all the pop structures, and hope for the best.
Here are my hammerheads trying to cross and failing miserably.
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6cef wrote:Is there a trick to making effective long term use of barren worlds? In picking up the scraps around, a lot of my worlds are barren worlds, and I seem to spend a lot of time dealing with rebellions, shortages of goods, and waiting for efficiency and populations to recover.
I often use them for trade hubs, sometimes for foundations, sometimes for CGAs focused on durables and luxuries. I tend to pull the tech level fairly high, and throw in all the pop structures, and hope for the best.
Any thoughts really appreciated!
Barren worlds are amazingly productive hexcarbide worlds and occasionally have major trillum deposits. Sometimes they are used for foundations/hubs, but I prefer to put those on underground worlds. My #1 choice for that kind of world, especially with abundant hexcarbide deposits, is jumpship production. As long as they have a steady supply of trillum, the planets won't die and they'll be able to supply their own hexcarbide at relatively low production costs (3-4% if deposits abundant) if there aren't many worlds left in the area.
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catfighter wrote:Here are my hammerheads trying to cross and failing miserably.
hmm. looks like some kind of edge case or similar with the pathfinding. can you plot a course to that jumpship yard?
6cef wrote:Is there a trick to making effective long term use of barren worlds? In picking up the scraps around, a lot of my worlds are barren worlds, and I seem to spend a lot of time dealing with rebellions, shortages of goods, and waiting for efficiency and populations to recover.
I often use them for trade hubs, sometimes for foundations, sometimes for CGAs focused on durables and luxuries. I tend to pull the tech level fairly high, and throw in all the pop structures, and hope for the best.
Any thoughts really appreciated!
Barren worlds are amazingly productive hexcarbide worlds and occasionally have major trillum deposits. Sometimes they are used for foundations/hubs, but I prefer to put those on underground worlds. My #1 choice for that kind of world, especially with abundant hexcarbide deposits, is jumpship production. As long as they have a steady supply of trillum, the planets won't die and they'll be able to supply their own hexcarbide at relatively low production costs (3-4% if deposits abundant) if there aren't many worlds left in the area.
right, i always forget the lower industry cost for abundant resources. excellent point.
catfighter wrote:Here are my hammerheads trying to cross and failing miserably.
hmm. looks like some kind of edge case or similar with the pathfinding. can you plot a course to that jumpship yard?
Nope. That's broken too.
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Awesome! It's definitely going to help keep a few more players in the game if they can get a hold of it.
Hey, space is a tough place where wimps eat flaming plasma death.
Hehe I'm going to have to quote this somewhere.
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I always thought that was intentional.
