Arkheias wrote:Seriously, several of the brand new items I added in the previous version didn't even work because of a typo that I found and fixed within three days of releasing that version. I didn't release the patch because then I'd have to change a bunch of version numbers again and upload it to a bunch of sites for archival purposes, and I wanted to wait and see if anyone was actually bothered enough to complain about it first. Four months and nearly a hundred downloads later and the only bug report I've received was an IRC message about a death trap that I had intentionally put in the game in the first public version.
Please consider this from the other side. Cabbage Corp blew me away when I first skimmed through it. It still does. But it is HUGE. And there are heaps more mods out there. Drake Tech, SM&M++, The Network, PSD, etc, etc all take days to even run through once. I spent well over a week playing the BlueLight tutorial mod (and learning heaps, thanks JBW) and that's only a relatively small mod! So its more than likely that no-one has found any bugs yet. I haven't played Cabbage Corp for a while simply because I've been workng on my mods or playing others.AssumedPseudonym wrote:I feel ya, man. I get very little feedback on my stuff, either. I hadn’t noticed the enhancer bug you mentioned or I would have said something. It seems to be symptomatic of the community as a whole. The people who do report bugs in mods are usually very good about doing so when the find them, there just aren’t all that many who do.
Don't think for a minute that these mod aren't appreciated, The truly are. And they are also awe inspiring and something for new modders to work up to.
From my point of view, I'm quite happy to report bugs and often do, BUT I don't report every bug I find
If I can replicate a bug several times, then I report it.
If i'm running more than one mod at a time (and this is the case more often than not) then I don't report them. Simply because to me it seems pointless to let someone know that if their mod is running with 5 other mods then there is a bug. To track the problem down would likely take days.
Other times I'm not sure if it's a bug or intentional. George put a report on the Ministry about the CSC's not showing on the LRS. I'd noticed that this happens but thought it intentional because the CSCs are ships, not stations.
I try to include a description of what caused the bug, with a screenshot if possible and any ideas I have about what is happening. But this all takes time. I get very limited time online (this post was written days ago, saved, then cut and pasted onto the forum) so can only report a few things at a time.
From other forum members POV, someone with limited modding skills may not feel qualified to report a bug or give a suggestion (I used to feel this way). These mods are extremely impressive when you think about it.
Or they may not want to fill up a topic with bug reports. It seems negative to me (irrational, I know, but there you go!) to see post after post of problems.
Or they may not know what to say. There is a lot of jargon around and also explaining something on the forum can be very difficult with words only.
Any other thoughts, anyone, from a modder or newbie or player perspective? What are modder's looking for? What do newbies need to know?