1.2 Beta 1 is Ready!

Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:09 pm

I see many changes (and hints of possible upcoming features) in the xml, and that has given me some ideas for mods. Looks like I have much updating work to do.

Most of the graphics changes are nice, or at least different but good enough, but some look odd. Nebula is really bright, and the edges look like saw teeth. The biggest problem with this release is it crashes too much to play a game seriously.

Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:12 am

PM wrote:Nebula is really bright, and the edges look like saw teeth. The biggest problem with this release is it crashes too much to play a game seriously.

I agree about the nebula--I'm going to try some different algorithms that might make it better.

As for crashing, please send me some Debug.log files (and .sav files, if you can repro it). [The game generally sends me crash reports, but not if you're in debug mode or if you don't sign in. So far I've only seen one crash.]

p.s.: I'm sure I broke a lot of mods--please point them out to me and I can see if I can restore the original behavior.

Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:53 pm

The crashes happen occasionally whenever I spawn an item, dock with a ship (standard mule or PSD ship), gate in/out (to an existing system), or seconds after firing a weapon. They do not happen much (and I cannot reliably reproduce a crash), but they happen enough that honoring permadeath is impossible without save scumming. I used some of my mods (Godmode, Items912, and PSD), but I doubt they were the cause because they did not crash in 1.1 or 1.2a1 (except for the one or two crashes caused by attempting to gate to a non-existant system).

Quick question: Can damage to a ship's interior be repaired? If so, what can repair it?

Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:24 pm

I placed an Interior for a playership and noticed that installed devices can take damage (and display smoke) when the interior does. Nice way to reduce loot from enemies. For the player (playing a playership mod), it is probably a fate worse than death if it breaks something like the Lamplighter. Overall, nice touch.

Will the interior display HP boxes of their own for playerships that feature them? If so, how do you make them appear on the HUD?

Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:51 pm

PM wrote:Will the interior display HP boxes of their own for playerships that feature them? If so, how do you make them appear on the HUD?

Currently this does not work (nothing displays). Nor is there currently a way to repair interior damage. Both, however, are excellent ideas.

Androgeos · Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:53 am

I am reading your apiVersion notes on version 14, George, and I'm really curious about what the new thrustRatio= parameter in ShipClass does. I'm guessing it has something to do with propulsion inertia.

sun1404 · Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:59 am

If the interior makes devices susceptible to damages, then I think there must be some kind of devices-protecting device before it can be implemented on player ships, else freighter pilots would end up without any money, very quickly.

Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:49 pm

Or the player can blow off permadeath and reload if he suffers a fate worse than death, like Lamplighter getting damaged. So far, it is only problem for mods. The only solution I can think of to fix interior, until George adds more support for ship interiors, is to copy the ship and delete the old ship. Still would not prevent damage. Only reload scumming can mitigate that.

Don't misunderstand, it is a source of possible frustration for the player, but only if he plays a mod that gives him the choice of playing a big ship.

Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:07 pm

Nice! Looking forward to it!

Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:13 pm

Androgeos wrote:I am reading your apiVersion notes on version 14, George, and I'm really curious about what the new thrustRatio= parameter in ShipClass does. I'm guessing it has something to do with propulsion inertia.

Unfortunately, this is nothing special. thrustRatio= is just another way of specifying the default engine thrust. Instead of an absolute thrust= number, you specify the ratio of thrust to mass that you want and the game engine will compute the actual thrust. This is helpful while designing a ship to keep a constant thrust ratio while changing its size/equipment.

In other words, this is just a way to set the thrust= parameter on a ship class.

The computation generally matches the thrust ratio displayed in the player ship select screen. It includes the mass of the hull plus all starting devices and armor.

Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:05 pm

Hm, Im unable to access the multiverse login; I get this error: /api/requestLogin: Unable to send command to server. (as printed in the debug log)

OS is Windows 8 (xP New laptop..)

Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:11 pm

Wolfy wrote:Hm, Im unable to access the multiverse login; I get this error: /api/requestLogin: Unable to send command to server. (as printed in the debug log)

OS is Windows 8 (xP New laptop..)

Could this be a firewall issue?

Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:14 pm

I tried allowing it through the windows firewall, but to no avail

(The new projectiles do look pretty though!)

Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:14 am

>.< Having a lot of problems finding a working version of transdata (2.8.1 wont open the tdb for me) and still cant log in..

LordSutekh · Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:28 pm

What units do the size field in planets use? Is it kilometers or something else? And I'm guessing the size classifications (eg. SizeI or SizeM) are just sequential?