Forced Permadeath

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I was wondering if there was a way to make a mod the creates forced permadeath. I checked the insurance xml for inspiration, but found nothing that could help me. Anyone have any ideas?
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Drako Slyith wrote:I was wondering if there was a way to make a mod the creates forced permadeath. I checked the insurance xml for inspiration, but found nothing that could help me. Anyone have any ideas?
Maybe delete the player's save file....? But that would have to be some kind of hardcoded thing.


Ooh! I've got it! When the player dies, transport them to an "afterlife" stat system -- sorta like Elysium, with Tan-Ru-Dorem. The player gets to fly around a bit, maybe they can dock at a station that will refuel them, etc. It's basically heaven (but at the Core). Use a blue sun to make it all bright and pretty - use white ice asteroids (because white = heaven), through in some peaceful roaming sentinels or something like that, and make sure the player can't get out. (don't put in a stargate, because then they'll be able to Jump to Elysium). Maybe also, when the player is transported there, delete all Gems of Despair that would otherwise allow them to portal out of the Heaven System.

I like that idea - it's not perfect, but I think it would be pretty cool. :P

BTW, are you planning to add this to Insane Difficulty mod?
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Actually yes, I was thinking of putting this in my insane difficulty mod, but I'm still working out the balance on it. Mostly I was planning to have it separate, so that it would help players who wanted to achieve that honored permadeath achievement could do so and have an easy way to make sure they do.
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using a modified insurance code, you can gate the playership to an empty system with a sign "you are dead, there is nothing anymore you can do with this savegame, please restart"
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Or a ship called "Angel of Death" or something appears in the system and repeatedly blows you out of existence.
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Or force crash the game... that will corrupt the save :)
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If you corrupt the save you don't get the character dump.

Just set a flag on death and check it on game load. Suspend the playership and everything nearby if it's true.
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Ouch, right.... no char dump would be bad... You can attach an event handler to the playership that reacts to the OnDestroyed event and changes some data. From there on how to prevent the player from continuing is up to your creativity.
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The insurance is triggered by an event <OnGlobalResurrect> which could be placed in any station and hold any scripts. I like the idea of having a super boss come after you, forcing you to rage quit, although a godmod ship would circumvent that. Directly destroying the playership in code is foolproof but is the sledge hammer of solutions.
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I'd hardwire the projectiles for my Awesome Cannon into a syscreateweaponfire using that <OnGlobalResurrect>. So that when you resurrect, you are immediately attacked by 500 Awesome shots from all vectors. But that's just me.
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Shrike wrote:I'd hardwire the projectiles for my Awesome Cannon into a syscreateweaponfire using that <OnGlobalResurrect>. So that when you resurrect, you are immediately attacked by 500 Awesome shots from all vectors. But that's just me.
You have a really, really, really sick way of creating weapons/missiles and killing things. What's the word....oh yeah.
AWESOME! 8-)

I like that -- it's not Heaven the player goes to after all. It must be hell! :twisted:
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I got it; when they resurrect, they go to a world where they are constantly shot at from all angles. They can fly around as long as the shields last... aka not long.
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Drako Slyith wrote:when they resurrect, they go to a world where they are constantly shot at from all angles.

How did you know?!?!

That is exactly what my heaven looks like XD
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