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I just destroyed a Teraton nest, looted a damaged Positron Lancer, repaired it with a longzu sphere, then use longzu spheres to enhance it to 140%.

21.5 x 5 x 3 per second = 322.5 positron damage per second :D

I think this could be even better than the lamplighter (which can't be enhanced).
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Its got a rather sad range for a lancer (the other two having about twice the range). A +150% IM90 is not only an MT omni, but (I think) has marginally more range, and can output nearly 500 Ion DPS. Ion is however a lower damage type, though that doesn't make an overly significant difference for the vast majority of enemies encountered pre-heretic.
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The positron lancer is one of the better level X weapons due to enhancement stacking from longzhu spheres. However, it is simply outclassed by the Iocrym fracture cannon in every way except range, which the positron lancer does not have much of either.
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Wolfy wrote:Its got a rather sad range for a lancer (the other two having about twice the range). A +150% IM90 is not only an MT omni, but (I think) has marginally more range, and can output nearly 500 Ion DPS. Ion is however a lower damage type, though that doesn't make an overly significant difference for the vast majority of enemies encountered pre-heretic.
The IM90 has LESS range, half the DPS per beam, and a lower damage type. It also weighs 16 tons, more than even the APA. Even on targets where it hits all shots, it frequently does less damage. Phoboses, Deimoses, vetnari, luminos, and more don't take as much damage from the IM90. Further, it's more or less impossible to obtain without teraton abuse or several hours of farming. More to the point, if you have ANY level X weapon +150%, and you AREN'T headed to heretic, you seriously need to work on your obsession. ;)
PM wrote:The positron lancer is one of the better level X weapons due to enhancement stacking from longzhu spheres. However, it is simply outclassed by the Iocrym fracture cannon in every way except range, which the positron lancer does not have much of either.
the IFC has less than a third the effective range. That's not exactly a minor detail.
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AndWheeee wrote:I just destroyed a Teraton nest, looted a damaged Positron Lancer, repaired it with a longzu sphere, then use longzu spheres to enhance it to 140%.

21.5 x 5 x 3 per second = 322.5 positron damage per second :D

I think this could be even better than the lamplighter (which can't be enhanced).
I'd say, the Quantumsphere disintegrator is the best weapon. If not, then it should be the Iocrym Avalanche cannon.
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Xanthe V wrote:
AndWheeee wrote:I just destroyed a Teraton nest, looted a damaged Positron Lancer, repaired it with a longzu sphere, then use longzu spheres to enhance it to 140%.

21.5 x 5 x 3 per second = 322.5 positron damage per second :D

I think this could be even better than the lamplighter (which can't be enhanced).
I'd say, the Quantumsphere disintegrator is the best weapon. If not, then it should be the Iocrym Avalanche cannon.
By the way, the best missile launcher is the Kytryn launcher. If no, then the best AoE weapon it is; the NAMI Heavy launcher.
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Xanthe V wrote:
Xanthe V wrote:
AndWheeee wrote:I just destroyed a Teraton nest, looted a damaged Positron Lancer, repaired it with a longzu sphere, then use longzu spheres to enhance it to 140%.

21.5 x 5 x 3 per second = 322.5 positron damage per second :D

I think this could be even better than the lamplighter (which can't be enhanced).
I'd say, the Quantumsphere disintegrator is the best weapon. If not, then it should be the Iocrym Avalanche cannon.
By the way, the best missile launcher is the Kytryn launcher. If no, the the best AoE weapon it is; the NAMI Heavy launcher.
uh... best for what, exactly?
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Watch TV, Do Nothing wrote:
Xanthe V wrote:
Xanthe V wrote:
AndWheeee wrote:I just destroyed a Teraton nest, looted a damaged Positron Lancer, repaired it with a longzu sphere, then use longzu spheres to enhance it to 140%.

21.5 x 5 x 3 per second = 322.5 positron damage per second :D

I think this could be even better than the lamplighter (which can't be enhanced).
I'd say, the Quantumsphere disintegrator is the best weapon. If not, then it should be the Iocrym Avalanche cannon.
By the way, the best missile launcher is the Kytryn launcher. If no, the the best AoE weapon it is; the NAMI Heavy launcher.
uh... best for what, exactly?
Usually for damaging stations and barriers. If you see the DPS of the NAMI heavy launcher's M5 missile, it'll be like 325 thermonuclear DPS. PLUS: Mass destruction trait which makes it the vanilla game's perfect base buster weapon
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Xanthe V wrote:
Watch TV, Do Nothing wrote:
Xanthe V wrote:
Xanthe V wrote:
AndWheeee wrote:I just destroyed a Teraton nest, looted a damaged Positron Lancer, repaired it with a longzu sphere, then use longzu spheres to enhance it to 140%.

21.5 x 5 x 3 per second = 322.5 positron damage per second :D

I think this could be even better than the lamplighter (which can't be enhanced).
I'd say, the Quantumsphere disintegrator is the best weapon. If not, then it should be the Iocrym Avalanche cannon.
By the way, the best missile launcher is the Kytryn launcher. If no, the the best AoE weapon it is; the NAMI Heavy launcher.
uh... best for what, exactly?
Usually for damaging stations and barriers. If you see the DPS of the NAMI heavy launcher's M5 missile, it'll be like 325 thermonuclear DPS. PLUS: Mass destruction trait which makes it the vanilla game's perfect base buster weapon
i used to think the same thing but it turns out that dps is not everything. fragment:radius weapons like the M5 and lucifer are currently bugged and are less effective against large stations unless you are sitting right on top of the station which i do not recommend.

you usually need to fabricate M5s because you never get very many from vendors. they also weigh half a ton! the fragment:area missiles (warhammer, micronuke) are better for base busting because they hit large targets like stations multiple times times and you don't have to waste time fabricating them.

all missiles have mass destruction effect, and most high level missiles have the same WMD7 trait as the m5- m2, high-flux, lucifer, gotha-10, gotha-400, etc. are all WMD7. WMD7 just means that it does 100% of stated damage to station armor before resistances, etc.

even the 3k siege mag has WMD7 and I wouldn't exactly describe those as perfect base buster weapons
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