Population stats

[Aury]

What is the overall population of:
the QZ?
a CW metro station?
the arcology?
an ares commune?
CW settlements/colonies?

[PM]

According to one of the Fun Facts, the 2410 census of Eridani says 29 million people live in the system, and half of them live in Starton Eridani.

[Drako Slyith]

Well, on earth now there is about 6 billion people. The human population doubles roughly every 60-100 years. If you then go for a further 500 years or so, you get around 192 billion people add a few pandemics, genocides, and wars and get probably 130 billion. The destruction of the overcrowded Earth may kill 30 billion people in stations and on the surface. Separate the populations into different sovereigns and get around the 30 billion people in commonwealth, around the same for the Ares, maybe 10 billion for the Ringers, 15 billion for the Sung. Around 5 billion for the various pirate groups and outlaws, maybe 10 billion for the Corperate mines, enclaves, and factories.

I think you could probably call the population of commonwealth colonies around 30,000-40,000 people; enough to create a stable settlement. Settlements would probably have a few more, probably around 50,000-60,000. They are, for all intents and purposes, cities.

The archolony is: A; big, and B; the capital. You could assume it would be similar to New York City, but extended to circle the earth. Based on that, it might have around 500,000,000 people in it total, around 40,000,000-50,000,000 per section. It would have embasies from virtually every sovereign, the University, the Senate, all leaders, and probably every Government Department in the entire Commonwealth, Plus the people who are civilians, St. Kats being the hub of civilization there would be a lot of civilians.

An ares Commune is an ares City, and is quite big. Based on this there is probably around 30-40 million people in it. The same could be used for a Commonwealth Metro Station. They are around the same size and have the same purpose. The ones in the later systems would have closer to 30,000,000 however because people would be driven toward St. Kats by the chaos and war, but would be driven towards the metros for protection because of the heavy defenses and security.

[Aury]

well, during the syrtian war, mars was bombed to an uninhabitable crisp, and earth was severely damaged (with hundreds of millions being killed in the bombings, but not rendered uninhabitable (it is in fact still being lived on, and earth commodities are still being made there and then sold)

Also, the population doubling at that rate is due to stage 2 & 3 nations which have abnormally high birthrates. By the 2100's, it appears that msot of earth is in stage 4 & 5, so such birthrates are hardly likely any more. Thus it is likely 130 billion is substantially higher than what it really is, even if wars and the like are not accounted for.

[Atarlost]

What future birth rates would look like depends on what you blame declining birth rates on.

If it's crowding linked to urbanization it'll get worse because space stations are going to be very crowded and there only appear to be a very few inhabited planets, but those planets will experience very high population growth.

If it's the availability of birth control population will probably not grow except for the Ares, who presumably grow their clones in artificial wombs... unless other powers ban birth control to try to match Arean population levels.

If it's simply social stigma it will start to rise as soon as the neo-malthusian apocalypse scenarios are made irrelevant by the demonstration of self sustaining space colonies.

Whatever it is it's a problem the Ares don't have, being cloners. The other powers must find some way to keep their fecundity high to avoid falling to the Ares juggernaut. That cloning is an Ares specific thing indicates there are other measures that can solve the fecundity problem.

[Drako Slyith]

True I probably overestimated, but I was working with maximums. And I didn't see that things were exported from Earth, mostly Europa and a few other moons and planets, but I can't think of an export from Earth. Replicas sure, but no exports. Anyway yes, 130 billion is likely an overestimation, but if you think about it there is no way that the 26 or so systems are all there is. There is just too little open space and in such small space (you can cross the entirety of it in about half an hour) a power would have taken control. It would be relative to a dozen nations sharing an area the size of Rhode Island for five hundred years. Also, there is no Sol or Ares Prime. There would probably be more like a hundred systems. Even then it would be on the small side. There would probably be more like 90 or even 80 billion people, maybe less. It's hard to tell from a comparatively short and limited glance at the Transcendence Universe.

[Curudan]

And I didn't see that things were exported from Earth, mostly Europa and a few other moons and planets, but I can't think of an export from Earth. Replicas sure, but no exports.

Megathere meat:"Huge farms on Earth raise this once extinct animal to produce a delicacy known throughout the Commonwealth"

Australian Chardonnay:"Chardonnay produced by the ancient methods of Australia is today considered to be the best in the Commonwealth."

Terran eggs:"Infinitely superior to the synthetic variety produced on most stations."

Bariani olive oil:"One of the finest olive oils available in Human Space, Bariani olive oil is imported from Earth at great cost."

Misato sake:"The finest Earth sake is made in a small town in Japan."

Imperial Caviar:"This precious delicacy is imported from Earth and served only at special Corporate functions."

California cabernet:"Even after the disastrous tectonic quakes of the 22nd Century, the island city states of New California on Earth continue to make the most excellent of red wines."

Icelandic salmon:"This crate contains whole salmon from the Earth oceans around Iceland. The salmon has been carefully cryopreserved and tastes as fresh as possible for fish caught dozens of light-years away."

And the beef cylinder description hints that there is still a significant population on earth, and that they enjoy a relatively well off existence:"This vat-grown meat tastes remarkably like beef, at least according to anyone who has never been on Earth."

Most of the descriptions seem to suggest to me that most of the Earth survived largely untouched by the bombing, and that their primary effect was to completely and utterly eliminate the earth government as an independent force in space.

[Drako Slyith]

I guess that's right. I couldn't remember all of them. But still, in the Syrtian war probably killed a good percent of the population.

[Ttech]

well lets think about this if 190 people live in the system with most of them being in the starton station, and there's 6 cw stations. You do the math. Plus earth was never actually destroyed. Just hurt.. not to mention that we don't know how many the smaller corp stations or residential systems hold.